Fran Lebowitz, ace epigrammatist, is further a first-rate conversationalist, a hall-of-fame bibliomaniac, a chronic self-caricaturist, a gal-about-town, the soul of the city, a snappish social . They had a style sheet that was kind of the opposite of the New York Times. Polka Dotty ate seeds and celery tops, and my mother would give me Polka Dottys food, and I would go downstairs and eat it. This idea that people have to love and understand each other is absurd. Your email address will not be published. While working in the local Carvel ice-cream store, she attended an Episcopalian day school until she was thrown out for non-specific surliness. Certain that she would starve to death following this banishment, Lebowitz skipped college and moved to Manhattan, where she pursued such jobs as taxi driving, belt peddling, apartment cleaning (with a small specialty in Venetian blinds), and selling advertising space forChangesmagazine. In Andy Warhol's Interview: Volume 1: Best of the First Decade 1969-1979, edited by Sara J . It was charity really. Lucy stops sending her salary home, and I did stop sending mine. LEBOWITZ: No. Lebowitz: No. They have a fresh approach. They made me wait three hours to see the psychiatrist, and by that time I was starting to come down. Im very vilified for this, I have to say. CLEMENTE: You failed to describe your qualifications to be mayor of the city. Why was your first apartment so horrible, apart from the roaches? LEBOWITZ: When I move, I do. It was written in the nineteenth century by, I think, a seven- or eight-year-old child who was the daughter of someone very rich who had this book printed. I was the best-dressed nanny you ever saw. I might have gone to the University of the West Indies. CLEMENTE: Youre a New Yorker, but you were raised in New Jersey, no? I would rather have a typist. I hate money. I loved getting the measles and colds so I could sit on the couch and watch all those morning situation comedies. I just talked it while a speed freak typed it. LEBOWITZ: Im following it, but in a way, I also feel the way I feel about the Kardashians: I feel like its following me. They had a very weird array of people who worked there. 15 Times Fran Lebowitz Was The Most Interesting Woman In The Room. But since that apartment was infested with roaches, I decided not to bring them to my nice, new apartment. I dont know howbecause when I was young, boys didnt type. As boring as reading it. High Times: What jobs have you had besides writing? I wasnt an interesting behavior problem. I styled myself to look like no one else. He was the only one of us to break out into the big time, because he got a job on the first gay cruise ship. She has been a resident of Manhattan, New York since 1970. I know this sounds insane, but I just hate it. My first school punishment was sitting in the corner in kindergarten wearing a Band-Aid over my mouth and holding up a sign that said I am a chatterbox. That was my first run-in with authority. She was a hot little number in 1978 . LEBOWITZ: Yes, the night before. It was actually a show for farmers. Id like to be admissions director of New York. The whole time before I write I spend on the phone begging people for ideas and solace and sympathy. Wander the New York City streets and fascinating mind of wry writer, humorist and raconteur Fran Lebowitz as she sits down with Martin Scorsese. Two rare items of Andy Warhol: 1) Pop goes art - Institut fr Popkultur - 1990 - Box - Contains several items: - Glossy folder of loose-leaf art-paper reproductions. Because I could not possibly be in a relationship now for more than six days. The Modern Farmer came on before Sunrise Semester, and it was about farming. A prominent liberal Democrat with a keen political eye, Lebowitz has. It used to be a tradition in agricultural families that youd sacrifice the eldest child. And soon she had a book offer from a fan in publishing. Go to California. I wanted to know what a vodka for women meant. 19 January 2021. I could have written a trilogy in 11 hours. By Kate Mossman Enough time has passed, Fran Lebowitz thinks, to admit she went to a birthday party on 9/11. Fran Lebowitz slams NYC mayor Eric Adams. Like everyone else, I never imagined Donald Trump would get this far. I reviewed lots of movies that never opened in New York, only in drive-ins. CLEMENTE: [laughs] Lets talk about your twenty thousand books. "Pretend it's a citywhere there are other people ," she pleads. So all the judgment left at the same time that all this creativity left. I remember what year that was. Fran Lebowitz: I cover the waterfront. No. Oh, now I remember my favorite TV show from my childhood. High Times: Do you remember the first funny thing you ever said? Light? This guy came in and showed all these fake advertising campaigns and fake brands of vodka. Now youd have to have a zillion dollars to live there. I was a poet for about nine months. Just because its February doesnt mean were talking Roses! When I moved out nine years later, there was no ceiling in the bathroom. To me, dictating a book seems impossible. It was a very terrifying experience because when I started to flip out having smoked this much pot I was in a room with people who had also smoked this much pot and no one would help me out. February 10, 2022 Fran Lebowitz doesn't care what you think, unless you're carrying a gun. The only shows I remember when I was a little kid are Miss Francess Ding Dong School, which I watched because everyone made fun of me because my name was Frances. She takes one. One of my resolutions is that I am going to start answering my mail. He said, Id like you to come and sit there while Im doing it. We have something here that you dont hear about anymore; we have tolerance. They had a vision of me in a pink smock with a little square badge on it saying Fran. She began a similar column (although PG rated) in Mademoiselle. No, no, no. It was like the myth where if a girl gets pregnant and takes the boy to court, if three other boys come into court and say that they had slept with her, they would all get off scot-free. We lived in these horrible places. There was one 75-year-old woman who was a torch singer; she had varicose veins, and shed get up on this stool and sing Marlene Dietrich songs, also at ten in the morning. I wasnt glamorous and rebellious. I drove a taxi. Hes not going to be president. Lebowitz: The Village Vanguard. When asked about the long delay in its delivery to her publisher, she explained that she only works on it on the side. Comedian and podcast host Bill Maher pushed back against author Fran Lebowitz in his upcoming "Club Random" podcast when she suggested that schools have gone off the deep-end because of Republicans. LEBOWITZ: I would talk to them, but luckily when you drive a cab there are two things: You dont have a boss in the cab with you, and you are not facing the people that you are making money from. The idea of writing something without publishing it is too horrifying to me. But, of course, Ive always been old at heart. I was never interested in having such interesting experiences. Im a horrible girlfriend. And the truth is that most families have no smart ones and no pretty ones. No one else remembers things from this whole period, but I wasnt high. At the age of 27, Fran Lebowitz has been suddenly hailed as the funniest writer to come down the pike since Dorothy Parker or, by some accounts, Oscar Wilde. I remember I got $500 for it. When I got to the hospital I was restrained. Lebowitz: Because I was 19 years old. Because I was stupid. Im speaking to you from a priceless, one-of-a-kind chair. Steve paid me excessive amounts of money to answer his telephone. Since we are on the pages of Interview magazine, should we go back to your beginnings at Interview? Then I moved to New York and switched to exotic foreign brands. Fran Lebowitz is a New York humorist who worked as a columnist for Andy Warhol's Interview before publishing her first collection of comic essays, Metropolitan Life, in 1978. Theres a connection. Fran Lebowitz has realised George Costanza is, in fact, an idiot. Like love does. [Clemente laughs] I mean, the great thing about New Jersey is that its close to New York. Lebowitz is an atheist, so for her, no. That never used to happen. Lebowitz: A writer. "Candy was a man who wanted to be a female movie star," says Fran in the opening of the under-three-minute teaser. And I said, Well, I dont really care. Okay? We went to the Stratford Shakespeare Festival in Connecticut and interviewed the star of the play, and I wrote this incredibly bitchy Rex Reedish interview with her and got an outraged letter from her press agent. When it was on at 1:30 I saw no reason to get up in the morning, but now its on at 11:30, so sometimes I wake up to watch it. Im sorry, were full up. Im not the biggest James Joyce fanatic and I would rather have dinner with someone who was funny. Your email address will not be published. But this idea that people cannot kill each other? Fran Lebowitz: "A dumb woman is the preferred woman in the USA" The essayist and speaker on her Manhattan lockdown, 9/11 and disappointing Americans - from Andy Warhol to Joe Biden. I cant imagine what I could have done with it. They were terrible. After gaining recognition for her I Cover the Waterfront, Lebowitz moved onto Mademooiselle before publishing her first two books, Metropolitan Life and Social Studies. I saw a group-therapy movieand the whole thing took place in redwood hot tubs with people screaming their problems at each other. Fran Lebowitz: I Cover the Waterfront. I believe Im a great friend. Fran describes Ralph Lauren's copying, and eventual embodiment, of Brooks Brothers WASP style. Lebowitz: Sepia is my all-time favorite. 5. But they didnt have any long-term plan in mind. 1. A pen goes exactly at your speed, whereas that machine jumps. During that period I had stripes cut on my hands. The building is still there. Black cigarettes, every horrible adolescent smoking gesture imaginable. ever react to your devotion to their product? We were all really jealous of him. - 48-page book (text in German) covering the Exploding Plastic Inevitable, Andy Warhol, the Velvet Underground in film and a discography, with many b&w and colour photos. General? And I said, Because I liked your clever ads.. Like, this is the smart one, this is the pretty one. I would read it to him, because you cant read my writing. But I thought it was a job. By the time my youngest brother was born her life had collapsed on her, but she was a very elegant woman when I was young. It wasnt enough that he had Charles Mingus playing there every night. What you couldnt have at the time was male homosexuality, because the only books with male homosexuality were for male homosexuals. But I wanted to be a beatnik when there were already hippies. See, then, if you had no money, you had a horrible apartment. Speaking to celebrated New Yorker Fran Lebowitz over the phone is an experience as hilarious and eye-opening as one would imagine it to be. And thats why Frans first book, Metropolitan Life, has become a smash hit. LEBOWITZ: I mean, because I had no money. One day I went downstairs to eat Polka Dottys food, my mother told me that Polka Dotty had flown south for the winter. And its also not a modern idea; dictators are an old-fashioned idea. Fran began her pro writing career at 20. I ended up smoking Lucky Strikes, just because I liked the way it looked, the gesture. Lebowitz is strictly opposed to technology and to this day has no cell phone, computer, or typewriter. But letting people get on and off the 6 train without stabbing each other, thats good. If someone else has to write, then you know you have a willing companion to talk to on the phone for hours and hours while they put off their writing. I like Richie Rich comic books. I like Dorothy Parker. This must be about 15 years ago. Lebowitz: Every single time Ive ever written I thought I couldnt do it. I did not connect eating with staying alive, so I didnt think anything of eating the food. And now I eat a steak before I write, like a prizefighter. I loved dressing up and going out. I had been spending all of my time with drug-addict college students. Lebowitz will appear on stage for four performances only . He was stuck, and he asked me to come help. But I will go see any comedian. High Times: If someone offered you an hour TV special that you could do anything with, what would you do? I like that Oscar Wilde. You can see in it the sentimentality of Jane Eyre. Metropolitan Life is a 1978 bestselling collection of comedic essays and the debut book by writer Fran Lebowitz. Did Lucy come out of a feeling that you needed to put your arrival to America in its place somehowto examine it, or to leave it behind? I was simply sent away to support them. Thats what Id like to do. She has published the novels Annie John (1985), Lucy (1990), The Autobiography of My Mother (1996), Mr. Potter (2002), and See Now Then (2013). "It's a thousand billion," she continues, audibly indignant. Most families are a bunch of unattractive dopes. I believe that at birth everyone gets the capacity for a certain amount of drugs and alcohol, everyone the same, you can do it all between 15 and 19 like I did, or you can stretch it out over 70 years. Fabulous. AIDS completely changed American culture. They thought I had taken acid, and I couldnt convince them it was marijuana. People say, Well, what would you do with Times Square? And I always think, Gee, I dont know. But because I was young, I had this long hair, and people used to try to tip me with joints. I remember she wore her hair in a French roll, and she wore what they called a hobble skirt. . I couldnt imagine knowing someone who was that funny. High Times: Tell me about your writing habits. Ive gotten lots of date proposals. You have to say fuck, you have to have these kinds of sex. Im not afraid to be on TV. I answered Steve Pauls telephone and was a general schlepper and errand girl for him, and I drove for him. I got a lot of tips. [5] She is known for her sardonic social commentary on American life as filtered through her New York City sensibilities and her association with many prominent figures of the . In clips of them talking on stage, Lebowitz looks uncharacteristically awestruck. And I reviewed those. So I didnt have a kitchen. Fran was raised in Morristown, New Jersey. Theres an out-loud laugh (or more) on every page, as well as many passages destined for the quotation dictionaries, and the best epigrams written since the invention of television. LEBOWITZ: I never remember saying that, but I would have to abridge that. It was on West Fourth Street, between Jane and 12th. These four guys figured out how to lift New York out of this dire financial condition with the campaign I Love NY. I hated this thing. And then they would get it, and I would get these polite little letters back rejecting it. So we always have this fight, because I have a biography section, and he doesnt like that, because its so inelegant to have a biography section. The study where she writes is a sunroom surrounded on three sides by windows. Scorsese ventures that it was at a literary party on New York City . I wrote for the school newspaper. A pen. In placing them in magazines she was merely pursuing her policy of selling a piece of writing as many times as possible. There was nothing televisiony or psychological about it. But to this day I have never seen a worse movie. But . Okay? I like people older than me and children, really little children. I picked up two famous people: one was Dr. Joyce Brothers, who undertipped me, and one was Rod Steiger. The first time I ever came to New York by myself, I snuck to New York on a bus and bought a pair of bongo drums with all the money Id saved my whole life, which was $12. Ray Millands head was on Rosie Grier. . And at that time he had every important movie, and that ended my movie-reviewing career. I dont think I was still writing for Interview, but once you go outside your natural audience, there are tons of people that dont like you. I can put my hand on any book in the whole house; I know where they are. FRANCESCO CLEMENTE: After a certain age, in the early hours of the morning, the pressure drops, which is the reason why. I dont like to go out during the dayits too crowded. LEBOWITZ: No. LEBOWITZ: Thats kind of backwards. Photo by Arturo Holmes/Getty Images. And its not just New York; its the whole world. In conversation with Interview pal Francesco Clemente, Lebowitz here lays out her tongue-in-cheek platform for a mayoral run, declares the Donalds run done, and explains why New York is the greatest place in the world. One of which is that I strongly object to having more than one generation of a family being president. And then I would go to the Factory and turn it in. So I have a state diploma. CLEMENTE: And when you wrote these columns, how did you go about that? I wait until the editor says, Unless its in tomorrow morning at ten oclock we cant run it. Then I stay up all night and do it. CLEMENTE: One of my favorite things that you ever published was something that came out at the height of the AIDS epidemic, when the amount of nonsensical, prejudiced, ridiculous things being said was really extraordinary, and you came up with a few paragraphs that really nailed the situation. I finish things now, and I think, Who was the last person who typed for me? And I read them. The good thing about being in someone elses apartment is its so much easier to leave than it is to get someone out. It was like watching children at a birthday party. Their antidote to this was giving me about 22 Thorazines. Once I wrote a column for Interview called Send This Girl to Camp where I set myself up as some sort of fresh-air-fund child and announced that I wanted to go to camp: I invented a camp called Camp Sensibility and asked people for contributions to send me there. Here's what started happening: A few years ago, kidsand by which I mean, my friends' kidsstarted coming up to me and saying, 'Fran, where'd you get those vintage glasses?' And I said, 'They . I wrote it in a loose-leaf notebook in pencil. I met one who used to go to Kennedy Airport, to the terminals where people were coming from Florida, and there were a lot of Puerto Ricans who had never been to New York; he used to have a bathroom scale in the taxi, and he would tell these Puerto Ricans that in this country taxi rates were by weight and that it was a quarter a pound or something like that. CLEMENTE: How do you keep ten thousand books in order, do you have a personal librarian? An interview with the late, great actor, comedian, and cannabis fan Richard Belzer (1944-2023). Lebowitz spent the pandemic alone, at her own insistence, having turned down offers to lock down with wealthy friends at their Hamptons homes . Of course, every year it gets harder to find them. My first action on coming to New York was walking into Grove Press, plunking down the manuscript and demanding they publish it. Because it doesnt agitate against human nature. By Meredith Blake Staff Writer. My whole movie consciousness was based on movies no one else had ever seen. I still have the clothes I bought at Bonwit Teller. Thats not writing. And I also knew I didnt want to write like anyone else. If I lived in another country, like a country that was, say, an enemy of the United States, I would be more amused than I am. Everyone was paid in cash. When I was really young I wanted to be a toll taker because I thought they kept the money. Used Planes comes out every single month. In the past ten years, Lebowitz has been a regular guest on the television showLate Nightwith David Letterman. America is a great idea, so thats why its a great country. I saw the super once, just when I moved in, and I pointed out to him there was no ceiling in the bathroom. Then one day Polka Dotty was found dead. 246, Rachel Cusk and Sheila Heti discuss how writing her first novel helped Cusk discover her shape or identity or essence. Next, Allan Gurganuss reading of his story It Had Wings, about an arthritic woman who finds a fallen angel in her backyard, is interspersed with a version of the story rendered as a one-woman opera by the composer Bruce Saylor. Pretend It's a City. CLEMENTE: I think in your life youve said no more than yes. 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If you don't know Fran Lebowitz, you'll get to know her very well in Pretend It's a City, the new 7-episode docuseries directed by her longtime friend, Martin Scorsese.Lebowitz has been . At twenty-one, she began a column, I Cover the Waterfront, for Andy WarholsInterviewmagazine, before moving toMademoiselle. And I was once ejected from the Whitney Museum for making comments during a film about baking. The last one took me 11 hours to type. I mean, unless you have an erotic interest in them, what other interest could you have? Donald Trump is not my fault. "And then we did it the Saturday . 2011. She is widely recognized for her collection of essays, including Metropolitan Life, The Fran Lebowitz Reader, and Social Studies. ' Thats how I feel. Im not a nervous person. CLEMENTE: Do you think youre the manifestation of integrity? They also deserve him as candidate, all these so-called mainstream RepublicansI dont know what thats supposed to mean. No, youre not. The psychiatrist also had shoulder-length hair and Levis under his white coat, and I spent ten minutes arguing with him over whether Id taken acid or smoked pot. This is America, what is the culture? And in order to do that, you have to change it so they like it. Lebowitz: Not Samuel Z. Arkoff or anyone, but the press agent there loved me. I still cant type. LEBOWITZ: It really depended. Fran Lebowitz was born on 27 October 1950 in Morristown, New Jersey, USA. Then I start thinking that maybe somewhere in the house is a column that I never turned in. I just talked too much. General with two other people who were also smashed out of their minds. I often think of the time before my brothers were bornand this might sound very childish, but I dont careas this paradise of my mother and me always being together. I am alternately very gregariousvery sociableand then very solitary. When Im at my desk I feel like most people would feel if they went on TV., Some years ago, Lebowitz sold a proposal of a novel entitled Exterior Signs of Wealth, a reference to a French conspicuous-consumption tax figured on the basis of display of wealth. He wrote a lot of books. The way the admissions director of Harvard decides who goes to Harvard, Id like to decide who comes here. I hated the we. A sense of, Im all alone in the world, and I have integrity. It is boring and it is arithmetic. In introducing Fran Lebowitz to a contemporary large audience, the combination of biographical perspective and quasi-vrit style addresses the opposition between private and public (Arendt and Habermas). I had an ingrained hatred of Jeb before I ever saw him. You sit or stand in the subway, and you look aroundI do, because I dont have a phone so Im not playing a gameand you see people. I remember one of the best days of my life was an all-day A.I.P. More than it works in any other place. China is not a great idea: capitalism and a dictator. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Theres a huge gap in what people know, and theres no context for it anymore. And people sent in money. Photograph by Christopher Macsurak. My parents did. And he did those illustrations. Fran Lebowitz: I Cover the Waterfront. This conversation began at a public event at the 92nd Street Y in 2013, and was picked up again in her Vermont kitchen eight years later, in the summer of 2021, when the social restrictions of the pandemic had, for a time, eased. Lebowitz: Yes, but not with much zeal. LEBOWITZ: Yes, I was born in New Jersey and I lived in New Jersey until I was 18. Too insubstantial. Lebowitz: I dont think I was a poet for even an entire year. Lebowitz: Ive had a number of interesting, colorful jobs. LEBOWITZ: Well, you know, so few Americans vote that we may not even notice it. Thats the problem. It was one room, but that makes it sound grander than it was. There may, in fact, still be no ceiling in the bathroom. Theyre all right-wing nuts. Children played marbles on it. 2. He said theyd fix it. I would stand in front of the class and report on a book I had made up. Or acceptance or understanding. After addressing her reaction to the Mueller . My mother came from Dominica, and the thing about those little islands is that people from one island or the other dont like each other. But John Springer banned me from his screenings. LEBOWITZ: Money. - Booklet on 'New York's Underground' - Large . High Times Greats: Fran Lebowitz, Americas Funniest Femme Fatale. People say, "All the things that we like about New York are gone.". Richard Robinson thinks there should be a TV station thats only the best commercials. What are they going to possibly say thats of interest? I didnt know that there was anything about me that had a name, that could be diagnosed. Fran Lebowitz has tough love for tough COVID-19 times. She needed something bigger to disapprove of, and so her column became I Cover the Waterfront, and her beat became the entire universe of questionable taste. High Times: Tell me about your books before Metropolitan Life? Now I call up friends during the day and theyre writing. I used to like this guy Milt Kamen. Wasnt London still a capital of empire in the mid-60s, the cultural center of the Commonwealth? Lebowitz: My writing habits are basically nonwriting habits. Lebowitz maintains that she wrote the columns with the intention of building a distinct collection of essays. I was a chauffeur for Johnny and Edgar Winter. President Biden repeatedly framed his campaign and his administration as defending "the rule of law" after what he and others portrayed as the lawless reign of President Trump . Fran Lebowitz is 69 years old October 27. 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